Rock Band - Harmonix
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Submitted by Papercut on Thu, 23/08/2007 - 09:52

Neversoft are doing Guitar Hero III are they? That series is dead to me now.

The 80s pack is pretty ropey too.

However... I am very excited about Rock Band Smile

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21416.html

http://www.rockband.com/

This is probably Spring 2008 for Europe, so the question is... which version to import?

Two problems:

- 360 version will probably be region encoded (all EA 360 stuff is I think?)

- downloadable content might only be available in the US to begin with, and might also be region locked once that stuff is available in the UK.

First means the PS3 version could be the one to import, second one might be a problem either way. I bet the Live implementation for multiplayer is a lot better too. Bah.

Current rumour has it drum kit, guitar, and mic with the game for $200... hmm. If thats true, sounds good.

Anyone else going for this?

Posted: Thu, 23/08/2007 - 10:07

At that price I would be tempted, but the problem is I never invest enough time in these games to make it worthwhile. My Guitar Hero axe is woefully underused.

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Posted: Thu, 23/08/2007 - 17:42

The potential shipping and import charges terrify me. Think I'll be waiting for the PAL version.

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Posted: Thu, 23/08/2007 - 18:44

and while you wait... I'll be ROCKING!

Smile

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Posted: Thu, 23/08/2007 - 18:50

So will I, except on Guitar Hero III, which is actually rather good.

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Posted: Thu, 23/08/2007 - 19:00

and DRUMMING!

but not SINGING!

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Posted: Fri, 24/08/2007 - 18:12

I wasn't going to sing...until I found out Bon Jovi were in it.

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Posted: Thu, 23/08/2007 - 22:18
Madbury wrote:

At that price I would be tempted, but the problem is I never invest enough time in these games to make it worthwhile. My Guitar Hero axe is woefully underused.

Thought!

JibberX is about to Elite, and I need a singer. If you bought the game and the mic, Jibs gets the game and...

ah fuck, it would be region locked wouldn't it. Damn you EA.

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Posted: Fri, 24/08/2007 - 08:45

I'll gladly sing in your band (is this forum becoming gayer by the second or what?).

We will have to arrange a band 'practice' when you get your import version. Smile

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Posted: Fri, 24/08/2007 - 08:47

bagsy singing and the eye makeup.

....

....

yeah I said makeup.

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Posted: Fri, 24/08/2007 - 15:39 Papercut

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Posted: Fri, 24/08/2007 - 18:13

Whoah...posts jump to the bottom of the thread when you edit them. Is that meant to happen?

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Posted: Fri, 24/08/2007 - 18:47

Err no it's not. Papercut. Papercut! Papercuuuuuuuuuuuut!!!

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Posted: Fri, 24/08/2007 - 20:29

The date gets updated.... so unless you have replied to the comment directly above, it gets dropped down and the thread gets marked as updated.

So it is sort of meant to happen.

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Posted: Sat, 29/09/2007 - 00:14

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6180056.html

23rd November, $169 for game, drum kit, guitar, microphone - not bad at all!

I'll be going PS3 in that case, maybe pick up the game only in the UK if song packs are a problem.

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Posted: Thu, 04/10/2007 - 19:31

Very excited:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIlr9aZBAHc

Not sure about the character designs though, preferred the more stylised look of Guitar Hero. Better than the deformed freakery of GH3 still.

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Posted: Fri, 05/10/2007 - 19:52

~I can't wait to see this. PSCYHED!

HYPED!

ready to rock \m/

SIG DECLINED BY ADMIN DUE TO IMPROPER CONTENT AND NOOBISHNESS

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Posted: Thu, 01/11/2007 - 09:41

Guiter Hero III is out. Fuck that.

Extreme excitement!

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/10/gallery-rock-ba.html

Logitech mics again, I have three of the buggers already. Karaoke is go.

Just need to find somewhere actually taking orders for it now.

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Posted: Thu, 01/11/2007 - 09:57

were all the peripherals the same over the 2 platforms?

I got the impression they were.

I also saw some exciting pictures of a USB hub?

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Posted: Thu, 01/11/2007 - 11:08

Nah, PS3 stuff is bluetooth, 360 stuff is proprietary MS wireless (or wired).

Not sure if wired USB devices would work on both. The USB hub is in the 360 pack, because the 360 guitar is wired (and the PS3 one is wireless).

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Posted: Thu, 01/11/2007 - 11:21

we need a matrix!

So do the drums have rumble?

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Posted: Thu, 01/11/2007 - 11:44

No, but they have six axes.

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Posted: Tue, 06/11/2007 - 17:53

can anyone think of anyone interested in this:

http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2007/11/06/phase-guitar-hero-cr.html

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Posted: Wed, 21/11/2007 - 01:23
JibberX wrote:

we need a matrix!

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Posted: Wed, 21/11/2007 - 10:03

spoon?

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Posted: Wed, 12/12/2007 - 12:54

Yeah, so Rock Band is really great, but on the PS3 there ain't many compatible guitar controllers.

Hence:

http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-activision-behind-rock-band-ps3-compatability-patch-delay--58054.phtml

which is a little less of a rumour than it was - apparently a patch is pending release to add support for the GH3 guitar to Rock Band. It isn't entirely clear if/how this has been blocked though.

If Activision have tried to block the compatibility patch, considering red octane made their start ripping off konami bemani controllers it would be hypocritical: Xtreme!

Currently there are no standalone guitars, so no PS3 bass players. This patch would encourage RB owners to buy GH3 even. So the logic is a bit screwy to say the least. On the other hand, Activision clearly need to separate the two clearly in order to maintain 'brand identity' ie. guitar games equals Guitar Hero. Interesting to see what happens.

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Posted: Wed, 12/12/2007 - 13:25

Is this another case of the PS3 getting the bollox version of a game?

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Posted: Wed, 12/12/2007 - 14:31

Sorta. In terms of peripheral support I guess, otherwise I don't think there is much to choose (from what I've read).

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Posted: Wed, 12/12/2007 - 14:39

Cool. I guess you can't Rock out online with peeps playing on different versions of the game. Although isn't this going through EA's servers? I suppose the 360 version is through Live to EA much like the slightly odd online implementation in Burnout 3 on XBox. Therefore no interoperability Sad

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Posted: Wed, 12/12/2007 - 14:42

I think Xbox Live means pretty much no interoperability.

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Posted: Wed, 12/12/2007 - 15:33

Walled Garden for Live... good and bad.

Who wants to play with the PlayStation scum anyways, I mean come on... branding issues all over the place.

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Posted: Mon, 17/12/2007 - 17:26

Oldish news now, but it seems Activision were behind the block of the Rock Band patch:

http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=15440

which is pretty pathetic. The only thing I can think is that they are worried people would buy GH3 just for the guitar, and never buy any additional GH3 songs, which might make sense if the margins were thin on the GH3 bundle itself.

Activision have now made a statement blaming MTV/Harmonix for refusing to 'reach an agreement':

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165032

Smells like refusing to license the GH3 controller, or something along those lines. Nice.

Sony, meanwhile, have not really known what to do about the whole thing:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165012

Guess this is one area where MS's tight control over 360 controllers has actually benefited people, although that seems to have provided little more than expensive peripherals in the main...

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Posted: Fri, 25/01/2008 - 14:43

Still no resolution on guitar compatibility, which is frustrating. Prices and dates have been announced for the Rock Band stand alone controllers though:

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/847/847492p1.html?RSSwhen2008-01-24_122900&RSSid=847492

Feb 12th drum kit, April 1st (wtf) for the wireless 360 guitar, unclear for the ps2/ps3 guitar. Great.

2.5 million song downloads though - wow:

http://uk.music.ign.com/articles/846/846875p1.html

Here is a nice play guide by Harmonix themselves too:

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/01/rock-band-featu.html

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Posted: Fri, 01/02/2008 - 08:30

Wii bound apparently...

Like I say, box it with a Rock Band SDCard and you can have all the downloads you want.

EA, initiative and porting are not words seen together often. Unless Harmonix are doing it all?

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Posted: Fri, 01/02/2008 - 10:17

They farmed out the PS2 port, so possibly not.

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Posted: Tue, 08/04/2008 - 12:45

Sounds like no DLC for the Wii version then - complete balls up.

Also, pricing for the 360 version announced in Europe, 23rd May:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=130927

£180 for the full set - what the hell are they playing at? That is more than double the US.

Sept pencilled in for the PS2/PS3 release, doh.

Still, at least we have the closing song from Portal for free download for with US versions... well you do if you have a US 360. PS3 shop is frozen for two weeks while Sony make it work properly. Bastards.

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Posted: Thu, 10/04/2008 - 09:21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEXHuAOK1HM

Need to get that Rush pack!

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Posted: Thu, 10/04/2008 - 09:35

Some news around that Harmonix would be all over the Wii if it had a HDD....

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=186489

There is a case that there should be in Wii SD card downloadable accessable gubbins.... but I reckon you could sell a RockBand 8gig SD card for the content easily enough, and somehow maybe integrate that into the rather bloated pricing structure they have already.

Rock Band is already a fairly "premium" product anyways, 1gig SDcards are going for a fiver these days!

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Posted: Thu, 10/04/2008 - 09:39

There is a 2GB SD card size limit at the moment, and that might even be a hardware limitation.

Song downloads are about 50MB a pop though, so I agree it shouldn't really stop them. I think Harmonix want to be able to patch the game too, which could be it - they have just released an integrated shop in a patch (although the patch is quite small).

It does sound like an excuse more than anything else.

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Posted: Thu, 10/04/2008 - 11:56

What about the USB port? Could simply stick an encrypted 8Gig USB flash drive/dongle in there. Could even package it to look like a plectrum or something

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Posted: Tue, 03/06/2008 - 09:17 Papercut

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Posted: Tue, 19/08/2008 - 16:35

Some interesting news on PS3 guitar compatibility:

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/08/18/ps3-music-peripheral-compatibility-update/

I read that as Sony accepting some responsibility for the current mess, good-o.

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Posted: Mon, 08/09/2008 - 15:32

... and guitar compatibility patch will finally be released this Thursday:

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77842

along with RB2 dlc compatibility updates.

How strange.

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Posted: Wed, 25/02/2009 - 11:14 JibberX

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Posted: Wed, 25/02/2009 - 11:20

Was playing Amplitude last weekend. Fantastic game, I'm still bobbins at it too Smile

The selection of tracks is pretty weak though, I guess they couldn't cut the sort of deals they can now when Amplitude was released. Shame.

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Posted: Wed, 25/02/2009 - 11:39

The track list for Frequency is definitely more enjoyable after hours of play, more consistent too. Which is a shame, as Amplitude is the game I return to more often.

The track list on Amplitude was dicked around by Sony in an attempt to sell the game. They'd decided the abstract visuals and more obscure track list of the first was the reason it didn't sell, so insisted on 'known' Sony artists and 3D avatars in the second.

The real reason it didn't sell was because Sony were very poor at promoting it, and to your average gamer the concept is just too abstract to begin with. Shame.

They should have pimped it in Japan with the Bemani crowd and let it build a following from that, but it didn't even get released there! All the different Sony's must really hate each other. Supposedly Frequency and Amplitude were heavily delayed here because Sony Europe hated Sony US.

Hopefully now that Rock Band is well known and understood, the idea is familiar enough to people for this to work. I don't think DJ Max Fever set the world alight though, so the Rock Band branding must be important, Tired

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Posted: Wed, 25/02/2009 - 12:02

Hmm, RBU - Backbone Entertainment, who were responsible for the shit 1942 remake and Sonic Rivals. Boo.

DLC though - I wonder if Harmonix were genius enough to license songs for DLC with the possibility of using in a portable version. If so, super-yay.

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Posted: Wed, 25/02/2009 - 13:06
Papercut wrote:

The track list on Amplitude was dicked around by Sony in an attempt to sell the game. They'd decided the abstract visuals and more obscure track list of the first was the reason it didn't sell, so insisted on 'known' Sony artists and 3D avatars in the second.

They may well have been right. I tried to convince my friends that it was great, but pretty much everyone hated on it, because it didn't have any recognisable tracks. Even the tracks from the known artists are pretty obscure. To me this doesn't matter, but obviously it is an issue to others.

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2009 - 08:49

Looking a little more like Amplitude:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47765.html

Pretty exciting Smile

Please, please, please let me sync my band with the PS3!

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Posted: Thu, 09/04/2009 - 09:52

Balls, I was going to check this out last night and forgot.

I flying blind here.

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