One of the things I love about Capcom games is the puzzle element to them - learning patterns and combos then gliding through levels like you are some untouchable god! This is what I saw myself doing over the weekend on DMC3:SE, however I'd managed to completely destroy my brain with booze and fags Friday night and come Saturday was only capable of dribbling and moaning. Any thought of Dante & Vergil made my head hurt and gave me the fear.
Having still not finished off Dead Rising I thought I'd test the water by popping on the 360 - it was during the last batch of Cases that I realised something about this game I'd not seen before. Capcom are totally taking the piss out of America and more specifically the Americans for whom they have made this game.
They've removed their trademark complicated boss battles (bosses can all be killed with three or so slashes from the right type of re-spawning weapon). The only threat that remains is if you hang about to long in the same place and get overpowered by a couple of zombies, presumably enough of a challenge for fat lazy Americans? The game forces you to be constantly on the move trying to get to the right place at the right time to engage in Scoops - time management being the only puzzle element to be found.
Yet, crashed on the couch practically comatose I found it all very enjoyable. I knew the lay out of the mall well enough that when I was presented with a shopping list could happily run around collecting up items - what I'm getting at is they've made a game for Zombies to enjoy, go to point A then to point B, its OK if you have no brain cos you wont be needing it.
You may argue that I'm just trying to find some sort of logic behind Capcom creating a game that is blatantly for adults but has a difficulty level a small child would giggle at...and if this is so it doesn't bode well for Capcom's next big 360 outing Lost Planet...
You are absolutely right.
When Capcom stated in an interview somewhere that they have a greater understanding of the US market and how to appeal, this will be applied to DMC4 - my world crumbled around me. Thank goodness they havent dumbed down the gamesystem, it's a built up DMC3 mechanic.
Dead Rising is the complete opposite of say - Godhand. Godhand is 100% pure comedy on the surface, but underneath the system is as deep and totally fiendish as Viewtiful Joe - every single attack and situation can be manipulated to go your way - BUT it's absolutely ROCK hard! You dont ever get something for nothing, if you want to do well at the game YOU HAVE TO get good at it. It you plod along playing like shit and using continues, you aint getting PAID like a player who goes through on one life. THIS here is proper old skool gaming brought bang up-to-date, if you're shit - it aint scared to let you know you are and it's lets you know very often.
You may argue that I'm just trying to find some sort of logic behind Capcom creating a game that is blatantly for adults but has a difficulty level a small child would giggle at
This is what makes me laugh when people go on about "Mature Games" - the games they are referring to have absolutely fuck all under the skin, the ones they call childish (PN03, Monkeyball, Smash Bros DX etc) are all insanely deep!
Especially Smash Bros - that's like a mini VF!
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I've not played Dead Rising yet, but I'd like to give it a try. I have a feeling I'll enjoy it.
I have played the Lost Planet demo and enjoyed it, but there doesn't seem all that much substance to it. That worries me because although I'm shit at learning systems it's always nice to know there's something more there if I wanted to dig deeper. I think that's why I love quality arcade titles so much because most of the time they're dead simple to pick up, but the really good games have layers of depth that only become apparent with extended play.
I'll probably end up getting Dead Rising at some point, because as far as I can tell it's pretty much the only PAL 360 game in a few months now that actually looks half decent.
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From Capcom’s point of view though, they probably need a few no-brainers that the majority will lap up, just to keep the finances ticking over. It must be disheartening to create so many great games (VJ, Killer 7, PN03 etc) and see them sell absolutely fug all.
As long as they still create the kind of intricate rewarding stuff every once in a while, then I’ll be happy.
Be very careful with Dead Rising though, it knackers 360's. Several of my friends have had their 360's crippled by the game. The game is particularly intensive in terms of its processor useage, more than the unspecified operational limits of the system (something Microsoft have had to address since). Basically, until the game is patched I'd be wary of playing it for extended periods of time.
It's a fun game though, albeit pretty mindless.
Should my 360 have a slight rattle? The console tipped over from vertical to horizontal on my hard wood floors a couple of times. I've not plugged it in since. Hope it still works...
You can't really blame the developers for the problems. The fault has to be with the hardware manufacturer.
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I think that's why I love quality arcade titles so much because most of the time they're dead simple to pick up, but the really good games have layers of depth that only become apparent with extended play.
Its kind of frustrating actually, as you Level Up you unlock a long list of hand to hand combat moves which involve you getting up close and personal with zombies - using them can be pretty risky so you get a points reward for bussin them. However the lack of any sort of combo system leaves it as pretty empty and mindless fun. With that amount of foes on screen its screaming out for some proper linkage of moves once the novelty of the survival element has worn off.
Yeah - yet you still find people who think this game is stupendously hard and won't be told otherwise. I don't get it at all.
Lost Planet is going to be a good 3-4 days entertainment also. I wouldn't expect anything else really but the experience will definately warrant my 40bat.
Was probably a little hard on Dead Rising - having now completed Overtime Mode(?), didn't realise they were gonna treat me to Infinite Mode which so far is just absolute chaotic fun - free roam with bosses and survivors all trying to take you out? Wicked!
Lost Planet is going to be a good 3-4 days entertainment also. I wouldn't expect anything else really but the experience will definately warrant my 40bat.
Yeah I'm hoping its a great experience - they better structure it in such a way that theres some quality replay value to it (although On-Line matches is probably what will give it legs...)
Is it possible to finish Infinite Mode? Or is that a stupid question?
The basic premise is to last 7 days in the mall (about 14+ in-game hours), but I'm not aware of anyone playing beyond that.
Am I right in saying that in this game - you're NOT Alexander? :?
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"You're not Alexander!!!" -
Nah mate, your Frank!
Frank PWNS!!1!
Am I right in saying that in this game - you're NOT Alexander? :?
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"You're not Alexander!!!" -
Bruv I'm soooo Alexander!! I think ....
My mate's dad is Alexander, and hates having his name abrieviated too.
He doesn't play games but his plastering is second to none if that helps.
The basic premise is to last 7 days in the mall (about 14+ in-game hours), but I'm not aware of anyone playing beyond that.
Thats with no saves (Not made it into any loos yet to check if you can save) and with your health constantly draining? Thats one big session!!
You can pause it though can't you?
It's like the old days when you had to leave your old Speccy on for a week, because you didn't want to wait 10 minutes for the game to load up every time you wanted a go
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The basic premise is to last 7 days in the mall (about 14+ in-game hours), but I'm not aware of anyone playing beyond that.
OH FUCKING YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!111
Just got it at about 6am this morning, man i am KNACKERED! I totally went the wrong way of doing things and by the 4th day had rinsed the stores of all their foods! I am now running around desperatly to last these final two hours to get the 7 day survivor by trying to find and murder some psychos and survivors so I can steal their foodz.
Ive got 3 pizzas that ive just jacked from the Sniper Family. xD That should buy me an hour or so, then off to find some other fool.
I love Dead Rising, it is absolute mindless fun. Like most games, you only get what you want to get out of it. Even on this run (4th I think) I am still finding new weapons, new shops and loads of items to mess about with. xD
It may not be as "mad skillz" as VJ, DMC3 and God Hand but its not supposed to be. Although while playing it, I do imagine how mad this would be if Dante was released as a secret character! XD (dream on!)
I remember the first day I got the game, must of spent HOURS just running around experimenting with what I can do in the world. I am well impressed with what Capcom have managed with this, there is just so much to do. I love doing all the hand to hand combat moves, such as suplexes, body slams, wall kicks, gut punches and giant swings. ^_^
The game has captured elements of tension, panic so well, and then to see people moaning about the save system takes the piss! If it wasnt for the harsh save system, people would be making multiple saves and getting the multiple endings and achievments in one go, and then moan the game is too easy.
I really hope I can get this 7 day survivor thing, I dont think I will have the time to do another 10-14 hour mision on this ever again! Oh, and I think I can confirm that I must of got one of the 100% working 360s at launch, as its still running strong!
EEEp, lights just turned off. Ive got 1 more day (2 hours) to go! I am so gonna go to KFC when this is over and cain a full bucket to myself! I deserve it. ;\/
EEEp, lights just turned off. Ive got 1 more day (2 hours) to go! I am so gonna go to KFC when this is over and cain a full bucket to myself! I deserve it. ;\/
Did you manage it? Oh and make sure you go for the new Zinger Chicken stuff and give us the low down on that too. I love the Zinger burger (not the tower with its shit potato hash-brown rubbish). I could murder a Zinger right now and it's not even 10 oclock
Living the dream! Good luck man!
Zinger 3-piece is where it's at. That first bite into the crispy coating...you can feel the delumptious chicken goo drizzle down your throat, and then the great zinger taste hits...
MMMmmmm that Zinger taste is the business. Do you think playing squash for an hour yesterday has earnt me a Zinger 3 piece?
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You played squash for a whole hour? That's a 6-piece mate!
Did you manage it? Oh and make sure you go for the new Zinger Chicken stuff and give us the low down on that too. I love the Zinger burger (not the tower with its shit potato hash-brown rubbish). I could murder a Zinger right now and it's not even 10 oclock
Random furniture delivery! Then the guy wasted bare time by engaging in conversation a bit too much...he rambling somthing about Boilers and sea weed in the pipes...or summat. Anyway...
I CAN TASTE THAT VICTORY ZINGER BUCKET! Had extreme luck coming across 4 survivors in a row, including the END GAME boss. Dude left me 4 items of food that when put in the microwave will see me last another 120 minutes! :XD: Then as I walked down to get it microwaved, spotted another survivor and yanked her food too. X)
Just sitting it out, keeping my eye on the health at all times, even as I type this.
Anyway, Zinger Chicken is decent, its a worthy addition to the KFC roster of godly chicken related goods. The Zinger Tower also my favourite! I love the hash brown...it make my mouth go askldjnklnasasdknasdjknsjksnaWQAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhh. Oh god...gonna have to get one of those too. XD
Dammit, cant find my Undercover Brother\Dave Chappelle "THE SLAVES MADE THAT CHICKEN" gif.
I DONE IT!
ITS.ZINGER.TIME!
Now...I dont want to switch the console off...I know I can get much further than 7 days now. Or do I just quit it...get the Zingerness, and bag the unlockable items.
*Singho starts getting the shakes.
Urghhh...I gotta be somewhere in 2 hours as well. >_<;;;
Oh, IM CHUFFED!
Singho's a gaming die hard.... I would of caved in ages ago and ate
Hats off to ye' mate!
I'm holding off of the 7-day survivor mode for a couple more weeks as I didn't want to cane everything too fast, plus my mate stole the game without my consent. Well looking forward to it though, I used to love the Resi survival missions. I might actually be able to clean my flat during the breaks too.
This acheivement is so far out of my league... I can't describe... the closest I've come is starting a 24hour 24hour LeMans race in 24hours LeMans to see if the AI was interesting... 24hours LeMans.... I managed about 15 minutes....
To start one of those things, I'd have to be running off a diesel generator or something, just to be sure my efforts aren't wasted by lightening, being hit by combine harvesters etc etc...
Major props.
Sickhead! - There's a boss like this in FFXII were you have to fight for hours and hours on end, I just switched the machine off and put the game away!
SERIOUS real proper props!
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To start one of those things, I'd have to be running off a diesel generator or something, just to be sure my efforts aren't wasted by lightening, being hit by combine harvesters etc etc...
Major props.
May be you also have to clean Dreamcast to stop reset problem!
Well done Singho. I have no idea what you have posted and your website is strange.
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Jump him! He dissed the DC!
Bundle!
DUDE WTF!!!!
People have eaten Zinger Towers and Zinger pieces over here!
Anyway, thanks for the propellors dudes, its actually made the mission to do it all that much more worth it.
Im just waiting to be called a sad cunt for doing it on "the other" board, but im not fussed. 
The zinger tower tasted fucking great, and the zinger chicken...ahhhhh, burnt my mouth eating it, but I didnt care as the zinger coating floated off the chicken and crumbled in my mouth. The KFC round here has shit service "WHATCHA WANT!!!!? HURRY UP!" but the food is SS Grade. I think its the only KFC in the UK where staff have been threatened with guns if their food order or the chicken isnt up to scratch! XD...
Anyway, the dream was over as soon as I came back home. Didnt last for more than another hour or so before Frank "I've covered wars dont y'know!" West fell victim to starvation. ;(
SDTV FTW
Well chuffed as it was my first attempt, and I dont think I will try and bother topping it for quite a while. Man...Im gonna get some sleep.
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One word:
Soldier!!!
SDTV FTW
Still chuckling now
Glad you did it - now I dont have to!! Enjoy them Zzzzzzz's man.
Impressive stuff Singho, dude.
For some bizarre reason I've got colonel cravings.
How did he manage to play the guitar with them hands???
Plenty of extra fret fingerage ftw!
There's a page of screens + vid for the new one here;
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20090430_167865.html
The moose head weapon looks damn funny! XD